Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
By: DaiTengu to Khronos on Mon Jan 08 2024 08:46:36

You're trying to send mail to your point. That's not how this works. The point needs to fetch mail from your BBS. It will connect to your BinkIT server, much like you "dial in" to your BBS.

The only reason I was trying to send mail from my bbs to the point is to make sure that I could send / receive areafix requests and I don't think this will really work for me.
Would I have to build an echo list some how for the areas I wish to export to the point?
I have the fidonet areas devided into a group prefixed by fidonet_ in my config.

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Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
By: Khronos to DaiTengu on Mon Jan 08 2024 05:55 pm

You're trying to send mail to your point. That's not how this works. The
point needs to fetch mail from your BBS. It will connect to your BinkIT
server, much like you "dial in" to your BBS.

The only reason I was trying to send mail from my bbs to the point is to make sure that I could send / receive areafix requests and I don't think this will really work for me.
Would I have to build an echo list some how for the areas I wish to export to the point? I have the fidonet areas devided into a group prefixed by fidonet_ in my config.

I'm assuming you're using Aftershock.

Your settings should look something like this (these are my settings) https://photos.app.goo.gl/jq3cixkxxUFHxFWeA

Then you have 2 options. First, in Aftershock you can click "Mail" Then select "NetMail" The click the icon in the top right that looks like an envelope with a + next to it for a new message.

Fill out your areafix request, similar to this: https://photos.app.goo.gl/BKcvnxpxszUWUAU28

then click the "send" button in the top right (looks like: |> )

then, back at the main screen click "Poll Uplink"

Assuming things are set up correctly with BinkIT and SBBSEcho, your BBS should accept the connection, and process the areafix request.

SBBSecho will create the netmail response, and package it for your point. You should have your point set up as "h" or "hold"

Then, click "Poll uplink" again.

The above process should take mere seconds.

Aftershock will import the areafix response as netmail. click "Mail" and you should see:

NetMail
1/1

meaining you have 1 unread netmail message. your areafix response.


The other option is to edit your /sbbs/data/areas.bbs file directly and add your point address to any echos you want to read in Aftershock. Then when mail come into your BBS, SBBSEcho will package it for Aftershock to pick up next time you hit "Poll uplink".

You do not need to set echos up in Aftershock. Any mail that comes in, it will sort into echos and display them.

DaiTengu

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Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
By: DaiTengu to Khronos on Mon Jan 08 2024 18:42:18

Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
I'm assuming you're using Aftershock.

Hi,
Yes I am trying Aftershock for now.
I have also setup Newstap on my iphone over nntp to see if I can make this process work better for me.
I'm not sure an ftn connection for me is the best way to attack this problem. What I'm looking for is a common way to access the message bases on my system in a way that I do not have to be woried about what type of network they are connected to from the client side.
For my mobile phones nttp may fit the bill for this as long as my bbs does the stripping of my e-mail address on outgoing posts.

In windows I am still up in the air about my method of access as I am not sure of what usenet reader I should use.
Another idea I had is I wonder if in windows I could turn each message base into its own mailing list where I'd have somebasename@kf4yey.com as the e-mail address and then I would run authenticated smtp and imap on non-standard ports to allow me to send mail through my board in the cloud while using Outlook on the windows side.
In Linux I would just use telnet over ssh or whatever to use the editor I have built in to Synchronet itself.

Your settings should look something like this (these are my settings) https://photos.app.goo.gl/jq3cixkxxUFHxFWeA

I'm sorry I can not see the image in this link because I am blind, and you didn't have any way of knowing this ahead of time.
I believe I have things setup properly on the client side the issue I am having is I don't think I have things completely setup right on the bbs for operating a boss / point node configuration.
Another issue is that I would have to create a node for each ftn I want to communicate through and this would increase the complexity on me to do this as well as not being able to have access to Dovenet through my client because it is not an ftn.

Thanks,

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Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
By: Khronos to DaiTengu on Tue Jan 09 2024 10:02 am

problem. What I'm looking for is a common way to access the message bases on my system in a way that I do not have to be woried about what type of network they are connected to from the client side.

Maybe you should just use the synchronet web interface to access
the messages on your system.

Also you are blind, and that is another hurdle. I've messed around with hotdoged and aftershock. I would suggest doing the web interface route.
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Hello, DaiTengu.
On 8/1/24 15:48 you wrote:

Though convenient, it is not required. You can type the echo
names, one per line, and HotdogEd will create a netmail to
Areafix.

Maybe that was just me. It's been quite a while since I had to
set up HotDogEd, since it hasn't worked on any phone I've owned in
the past 2-3 years.

IIRC I had to adjust some settings for the HotdogEd apps on this phone.

I'm lucky it still works for me, even after it upgraded to Android 13.

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Hi,
Could you post your ancho.ini entry?

"Carlos Navarro" (VERT) <VERT!Carlos.Navarro@kf4yey.com> wrote:

Hello, DaiTengu.
On 8/1/24 15:48 you wrote:

Though convenient, it is not required. You can type the echo
names, one per line, and HotdogEd will create a netmail to
Areafix.

Maybe that was just me. It's been quite a while since I had to
set up HotDogEd, since it hasn't worked on any phone I've owned in
the past 2-3 years.

IIRC I had to adjust some settings for the HotdogEd apps on this phone.

I'm lucky it still works for me, even after it upgraded to Android 13.

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Hello, Khronos.
On 11/1/24 4:55 you wrote:

Could you post your ancho.ini entry?

What's that?

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Re: Re: Interfacing with message bases from Ios or Android
By: Carlos Navarro to Khronos on Thu Jan 11 2024 18:11:41

Hello, Khronos.

Hi,
The sbbsecho.ini file is the file that describes the fidonet peers that the bbs is linked too.
I was asuming that you were the sysop of the system your point is connected too.
If your system your are linked through isn't a Synchronet system then this process would be handled through other programs then.

Tom

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11 Jan 2024 17:38, you wrote to me:

The sbbsecho.ini file is the file that describes the fidonet peers
that the bbs is linked too.

Ok. You wrote "ancho.ini", that confused me...

I was asuming that you were the sysop of the system your point is connected too. If your system your are linked through isn't a
Synchronet system then this process would be handled through other programs then.

I am the sysop, but no Synchronet here (though I intend to try it some day).

My HotdogEd points are configured in my mailer (Binkd) and tosser (FMail) just like the other points.

BTW I have connected to a Synchronet system with HotdogEd, though not as a point, but with its newsreader module (NNTP Provider). Works fine.

Carlos

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El 12/1/24 a las 15:41, Carlos Navarro escribió:

11 Jan 2024 17:38, you wrote to me:

Kh> The sbbsecho.ini file is the file that describes the fidonet peers
Kh> that the bbs is linked too.

Ok. You wrote "ancho.ini", that confused me...

Kh> I was asuming that you were the sysop of the system your point is
Kh> connected too. If your system your are linked through isn't a
Kh> Synchronet system then this process would be handled through other
Kh> programs then.

I am the sysop, but no Synchronet here (though I intend to try it some day).

My HotdogEd points are configured in my mailer (Binkd) and tosser (FMail) just like the other points.

BTW I have connected to a Synchronet system with HotdogEd, though not as a point, but with its newsreader module (NNTP Provider). Works fine.

If i can help, I have hotdog connected to my binkit.js on sbbs, this is
my point setup (nothing special or different that another points / nodes):

[node:4:902/26.10@fidonet]
Name = Fernando Toledo (movil)
Comment = movil hotdoged
Archive = None
PacketType = 2+
PacketPwd = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AreaFix = true
AreaFixPwd = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
SessionPwd = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
TicFilePwd = xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Inbox =
Outbox =
Passive = false
Direct = false
Notify = false
Keys = MICRO,FIDO,FIDOBR,FIDOESP,MOMIA
Status = Hold
GroupHub =
BinkpHost =
BinkpPort = 24554
BinkpPoll = false
BinkpPlainAuthOnly = false
BinkpAllowPlainAuth = true
BinkpAllowPlainText = true
BinkpTLS = false
BinkpSourceAddress =
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