• Re: Robot Holocaust (1987

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Sat Mar 11 21:01:28 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sat Mar 11 2023 10:22 am

    Honestly, based on the advertising, I am starting to think that most OTA TV is targeted at people who are at least 40 and/or who are diabetic and/or overweight. Lots and lost of drug commercials aimed at those groups, plus anyone with depression.

    As far as the TV shows, much of the same TV shows and national channels on OTA TV are also available via cable TV and probably satellite TV, as far as I know.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 12 08:42:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sat Mar 11 2023 10:22 am

    The networks expanded their programming to meet the older early bird and
    night owl crowd. The early bird news is less likely to be channel surfed which is better for advertisers. You can tell it's targetted towards seni citizens because the major advertisers are Gold Bond Powder, adult diapers, and Geritol

    Honestly, based on the advertising, I am starting to think that most OTA TV is targeted at people who are at least 40 and/or who are diabetic and/or overweight. Lots and lost of drug commercials aimed at those groups, plus anyone with depression.


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    I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about drug, insurance companies, andcommercials targetted toward a less active audience.

    On cable/ satellite the old Nashville Network turned into a male oriented
    Spike network, and commercials for low testosterone and increasing sexual stamina were common.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Sun Mar 12 17:28:21 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:42 am

    I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about

    Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming services?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Mon Mar 13 17:17:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sun Mar 12 2023 05:28 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:42 am

    I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree about

    Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming services?


    As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50 crowd enjoys the older reruns these channels play. I know a few folk who are not into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regards to standard TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, and that's it.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 20:37:12 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Mar 13 2023 05:17 pm

    I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree
    about

    Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming
    services?

    As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50 crowd enjoys the older reruns these channels play.

    I thought a lot of the same channels were available both on OTA and cable/satellite. But now that I think about it, at least in my area, there are some OTA channels that play those old TV show reruns and those channels aren't available on cable/satellite. For local channels, I think cable & satellite tend to only carry the major network channels and not the extra ones.

    I know a few folk who
    are not into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regards to standard TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, and that's it.

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to watch. I don't even have cable or satellite..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 02:19:15 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to watch.
    I don't even have cable or satellite..

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Mar 15 09:36:55 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 2023 02:19 am

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though
    it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch
    of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    Yep, that works too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 19:50:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Mar 13 2023 05:17 pm

    I see OTA being more of an over 50 viewing environment, and agree Mo>> about

    Do you mean as opposed to cable/satellite, or opposed to streaming
    services?

    As opposed to cable/ satellite. I get the impression that the over 50 crowd enjoys the older reruns these channels play.

    I thought a lot of the same channels were available both on OTA and cable/sa e. For local channels, I think cable & satellite tend to only carry the maj

    I know a few folk who
    are not into streaming, nor were into premium cable channels with regar to standard TV viewing. They get their news from the local channels, an that's it.

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's most
    or satellite..

    Nightfox


    I've found some of the OTA channels also appear on satellite. MeTV and Heros and Icons channel appear on Dish. I think Ion and a couple of others are showing on OTA and pay pltforms

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wed Mar 15 19:54:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 15 2023 02:19 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue Mar 14 2023 08:37 pm

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want t watch.
    I don't even have cable or satellite..

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where there' s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Mar 16 01:32:18 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:54 pm


    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where there' s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.

    see if you can get starlink.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to MRO on Thu Mar 16 07:20:00 2023
    Quoting Mro to Nightfox <=-

    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to watch.
    I don't even have cable or satellite..

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
    is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
    go about getting it?



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Cougar428 on Thu Mar 16 09:49:49 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 07:20 am

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i
    want.

    So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
    is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
    go about getting it?

    Many shows (including that one) are also available on blu-ray and/or DVD, so that would be an option. Also, one could download shows like that via BitTorrent if one really wanted to..

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Mar 16 13:48:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Mar 16 2023 01:32 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Mar 15 2023 07:54 pm


    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    If you have good bandwidth, good for you. I live outside of town where there' s less than 10 houses per mile, and bandwidth is limited.

    see if you can get starlink.

    I'm on a wait list. since I've been on they raised the price of the receiver by $200 and are talking about throttling bandwidth. Too bad Tmobile's 5g at home isn't available in my area. I've talked to folks that really love it.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Cougar428 on Fri Mar 17 03:43:19 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 07:20 am


    I might be one of those people who fall into that category, though it's mostly because I don't really like the idea of spending a bunch of money on the various different streaming services only for a couple shows I want to watch.
    I don't even have cable or satellite..

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
    is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
    go about getting it?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Fri Mar 17 03:44:17 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Mar 16 2023 01:48 pm


    I'm on a wait list. since I've been on they raised the price of the receiver by $200 and are talking about throttling bandwidth. Too bad Tmobile's 5g at home isn't available in my area. I've talked to folks that really love it.

    i tried to test drive the tmobile 5g and they sent me a 4g thing.
    are you the guy that recommended it?
    they wont let me try out a 5g unit

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Fri Mar 17 19:34:00 2023
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Wednesday 15.03.23 - 09:36, Nightfox wrote to MRO:

    i have this thing called DOWNLOAD, where i get the few things i want.

    Yep, that works too.

    Some full films are available on dailymotion and vivo.
    Downling with yt-dlp works great with those too.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 08:09:00 2023
    Quoting Nightfox to Cougar428 <=-

    Many shows (including that one) are also available on blu-ray and/or
    DVD, so that would be an option. Also, one could download shows like
    that via BitTorrent if one really wanted to..
    Nightfox

    Thanks NF, my preferred way would also be physical media. I just
    like to have the item in my hand. Problem is I have so many
    packages that I don't have anywhere to store them.

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    Cougar

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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to MRO on Sun Mar 19 08:17:00 2023
    Quoting Mro to Cougar428 <=-

    So for example, if you wanted to watch Star Trek Enterprise and it
    is only available on Paramount pay streaming services, how would you
    go about getting it?

    Thanks for the snap MRO!

    Cougar

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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Cougar428 on Sun Mar 19 11:31:58 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    By default and by design, torrent clients upload while they download. The public IP is visible to every other client downloading/using the torrent.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Cougar428 on Sun Mar 19 18:12:46 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

    Thanks NF, my preferred way would also be physical media. I just
    like to have the item in my hand. Problem is I have so many
    packages that I don't have anywhere to store them.

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    Yes, as far as I know it is (that's part of how it works - it has to be able to track who is downloading and seeding the files).

    Nightfox

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  • From Lmorchard@VERT/DECAFBAD to Cougar428 on Mon Mar 20 02:00:56 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    Yup. Unless you use a VPN on the machine running bittorrent, you will likely receive a letter from your ISP. Like, a real paper cease & desist. I may have messed up years ago and seen one of those from Comcast. :D

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Lmorchard on Sun Mar 19 23:57:46 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Lmorchard to Cougar428 on Mon Mar 20 2023 02:00 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    Yup. Unless you use a VPN on the machine running bittorrent, you will likely receive a letter from your ISP. Like, a real paper cease & desist. I may have messed up years ago and seen one of those from Comcast. :D

    there's bottom feeder companies that just monitor public torrents and auto report the ip to the isps. they make pennies but i guess it's a living.

    you just dont use public torrents.

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  • From Lmorchard@VERT/DECAFBAD to MRO on Tue Mar 21 04:40:41 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: MRO to Lmorchard on Sun Mar 19 2023 11:57 pm

    there's bottom feeder companies that just monitor public torrents and auto report the ip to the isps. they make pennies but i guess it's a living.

    you just dont use public torrents.

    Yupyup, admittedly I want to say I was super-dumb and downloaded some stuff from pirate bay and a few public TV episode torrents. Don't do that, folks.

    o/` the more you know o/`

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Cougar428 on Tue Mar 21 07:28:31 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Mar 19 2023 08:09 am

    Is BitTorrent trackable/traceable?

    It is easy for Internet Service Providers to determine you are using BitTorrent.

    BitTorrent traffic is usually encrypted nowadays, but anybody downloading the same
    files as you can also find out easily you are downloading the same file. In effect,
    the only thing you need to know who are downloading some piece of copyrighted material
    is to start downloading yourself and then check the list of IPs in the swarm.

    You may remain intraceable if you do NitTorrent within an anonimity network (I2P comes
    to mind) but then you are limited to downloads available inside those networks.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Lmorchard on Tue Mar 21 08:22:34 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Lmorchard to MRO on Tue Mar 21 2023 04:40 am


    Yupyup, admittedly I want to say I was super-dumb and downloaded some stuff from pirate bay and a few public TV episode torrents. Don't do that, folks.

    if you HAVE to do that, hit and run. grab it fast and do not seed.
    take it out of your client.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thu Mar 23 18:15:00 2023
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Tuesday 21.03.23 - 07:28, Arelor wrote to Cougar428:

    It is easy for Internet Service Providers to determine you are using BitTorrent.

    What if you launch a VPN conection first?


    BitTorrent traffic is usually encrypted nowadays, but anybody downloading the same files as you can also find out easily you are downloading the
    same file. In effect, the only thing you need to know who are downloading some piece of copyrighted material is to start downloading yourself and then check the list of IPs in the swarm.

    If those other IPs are reassinged IPs from VPNs, it doesn't
    mean much.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Fri Mar 24 07:49:13 2023
    Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Mar 23 2023 06:15 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Tuesday 21.03.23 - 07:28, Arelor wrote to Cougar428:

    It is easy for Internet Service Providers to determine you are using BitTorrent.

    What if you launch a VPN conection first?



    most private sites ban vpns

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Fri Mar 24 06:52:00 2023
    Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

    What if you launch a VPN conection first?

    That helps - make sure you pick a reputable provider who doesn't keep
    logs of traffic.

    BitTorrent traffic is usually encrypted nowadays, but anybody downloading the same files as you can also find out easily you are downloading the
    same file. In effect, the only thing you need to know who are downloading some piece of copyrighted material is to start downloading yourself and then check the list of IPs in the swarm.

    If those other IPs are reassinged IPs from VPNs, it doesn't
    mean much.

    You do need to be extra-careful; ensure that your VPN has a kill-switch.
    If the connection goes down, the VPN client needs to either block all
    traffic or have the capability of killing an app, like your torrent
    client, to ensure that you don't send traffic in the clear.





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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 25 14:50:11 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 24 2023 06:52 am

    You do need to be extra-careful; ensure that your VPN has a kill-switch. If the connection goes down, the VPN client needs to either block all traffic or have the capability of killing an app, like your torrent client, to ensure that you don't send traffic in the clear.

    Some torrent clients let you configure which network interface they use, so you could have the torrent client use the VPN network interface. Then it would only send/receive traffic on that interface; also, that would work only when the VPN is connected.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 25 17:08:35 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 24 2023 06:52 am

    Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

    What if you launch a VPN conection first?

    That helps - make sure you pick a reputable provider who doesn't keep
    logs of traffic.

    BitTorrent traffic is usually encrypted nowadays, but anybody downloading the same files as you can also find out easily you are downloading the
    same file. In effect, the only thing you need to know who are downloading some piece of copyrighted material is to start downloading yourself and then check the list of IPs in the swarm.

    If those other IPs are reassinged IPs from VPNs, it doesn't
    mean much.

    You do need to be extra-careful; ensure that your VPN has a kill-switch.
    If the connection goes down, the VPN client needs to either block all traffic or have the capability of killing an app, like your torrent
    client, to ensure that you don't send traffic in the clear.


    this is funny. a guy who doesn't know how to use torrents telling someone about them.

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